Featured Comparison Review 2019 Ski Reviews Are In!

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  1. Pugski Test Team

    Pugski Test Team Testing skis so you don't have to. Pugski Ski Tester

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    Here are links to all of the reviews we have compiled of the 2019 skis.

    Full List

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  2. Paul Lutes

    Paul Lutes Getting on the lift Skier

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    Perfect. .... thanks Phil!!
     
  3. Unpiste

    Unpiste Booting down Skier

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    Excellent work, and thanks!

    Seems to be a slight problem with the Kästle, Stöckli, and Völkl links, though. (They're just linking to their banner images.)
     
  4. BC.

    BC. NEPA ShopRat/Skier Skier

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    Same
     
  5. Philpug

    Philpug Enjoying being back on two wheels. Admin Pugski Ski Tester

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    I was in the process of updating the links, should be good now.
     
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  6. nemesis256

    nemesis256 Kastle Guy Skier

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    Quite the list you guys have there!

    I can't help but notice how many skis have "Ti" in their name. I assume it's referring to titanal?
     
  7. pchewn

    pchewn Getting off the lift Skier

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    We truly live in a great era for skiing. A cornucopia of ski models available for selection, along with the multi-area passes make skiing these days so easy, accessible, and enjoyable!
     
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  8. Choucas

    Choucas Putting on skis Skier

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    Interesting to do a quick compare and contrast with Ski magazine's 2018/2019 list. Award winning skis here don't appear anywhere in the magazine and vice versa. Too many models/brands to cover? Fischer, which gets a lot of love here, is absent in the magazine. Pugski gets on the skis early. Maybe after the orders start to come in the companies re-spin their stories on certain models and push them in the magazine test which happens later in the year. Maybe skiing on Deer Valley snow in the spring gives different results from Winter snow in Colorado and the Sierras. Stockli and Blizzard, and to some extent Nordica, seem to get a lot of love everywhere, but even there, not always the same models. Having your skis built in Mittersill seems to be a good idea these days.
    Ski's testers have an average age of 42. That seems pretty old to be testing high performance products. Yes, they are all quite accomplished as are the Puggers, but some top level (recently retired) freeride skiers and racers would add more credibility to the results particularly at the top of the market.
     
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  9. Tricia

    Tricia The Velvet Hammer Admin Pugski Ski Tester

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    You will also notice that some brands are missing entirely from Ski Magazine as well as Powder.

    Pugski testers get a list of skis across all brands with notes on skis that are all new, carryover, redesigned, etc.
    We attend several industry demo days on the east and west coast to get as many skis tested by as many different types of skiers possible, in as many conditions as possible.
    We don't ask a manufacturer to come to a test day with XYZ skis to be skied three days in a row in whatever conditions happen during that time. Sometimes they get a powder day, sometimes they don't.

    We also provide reviews from a variety of skier types and sizes that are relatable.
    *Edit to add: We also encourage the Pugski testers to ski stuff that's not on the list if they see something that may be missed.
     
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  10. AmyPJ

    AmyPJ Let's go! Pugski Ski Tester

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    And sometimes, we attend demo days on our own and ski whatever floats our boat and then write about it :D
    I skied the Black Pearl 98 and Santa Ana 100 and a few others on a demo day at Beaver Mountain, for example.

    I certainly have my favorites/preferences, but there really ARE a lot of great skis out there. Lucky us!
     
  11. markojp

    markojp mtn rep for the gear on my feet Industry Insider Instructor

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    The SKI mag skiers in fact do have ex-USST skiers in their ranks. One of them is my boss. Mike Rogan and Robin Barnes, PSIA demo team captain and member respectively are involved, probably both over 42, and can ski the legs off of most mere mortals... I mean Mike can just haul the mail in pretty much any terrain. In general, the biggest gripe consumers have with testers is that they are generally much better skiers than the general public. "What good does it do if 'they' like them? They're pros, I'm not." Our boss is also buying a large quantity of skis/boots/bindings and is adept at stepping into other's shoes, which makes her a great resource for all in her orbit, including manufactures' development testing sessions, etc... Lesson one of retail is, if testers/buyers only ordered their personal favorites to sell, the shop would have a very short shelf life. There's just a butt ton of great skis on the wall. There aren't bad ones, but there ARE wrong ones.

    IMHO, Phil and the Pug crew have more 'choice' skis because there's no numerical scoring involved which IMHO is NOT the way to go... there's really no reason to rank skis, only to point out ones that everyone seems to agree that they like. And the whole numerical scoring is sort of like evaluating a great artist or writer with a multiple choice test. Don't even get me started on the silliness that ranks boots. Yes, I read the hell out of them because I know we'll have to talk people out of the wrong boot that SKI MAG said was 'the best'. The individual comments that Phil and Trish put together for each ski is the money shot and is something that SKI would do well to emulate, but don't much anymore. The problem with SKI mag isn't the testers, it's the way the editorial staff paints the conclusions.
     
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  12. surfsnowgirl

    surfsnowgirl Instructor, newbie Subaru driver and winter lover Skier

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    Just like how we are in the golden age of beer, we are in the golden age of skis. So many great choices, hard to make a bad one. Literally something for everyone. I do wish the indie skis such as Meier got more press though.
     
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  13. Choucas

    Choucas Putting on skis Skier

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    We call it ski testing but it's really ski evaluation. Ski testing is done by ski companies when they develop new or updated models. They test prototypes against their existing models and/or comparable models from their competitors. Evaluating the end product for the ski consumer is a job that can be done by skiers of any age who can adjust their skiing level to closely match the kind of skiing that the target skier is doing or is aspiring to do. They are, for the most part, better skiers than the consumer but they need to be able to adjust their skiing to mirror the intended buyer. This isn't about which ski do I like, it's about which ski will the person walking into the shop will like. By accurately describing the skis performance in a common language that the consumer will understand, testers are, ideally, able to guide the reader to the best choice for the way they ski and the level of skiing to which they aspire. I think the Pugsters do a good job of doing this over all and particularly with their cage match comparisons.
    SKI mag does a good job of covering the skis they have under their system. I like putting a number next to each ski. But they don't give feedback from a variety of venues and a variety of snow conditions. I don't think I could find anything bad to say about any ski when skiing on perfect Deer Valley snow. It's a much shallower dip into the pool and leaves too many loose ends.
    It's a daunting task to cover so much equipment on snow. It's great that we have access to so much good information on such a confusing subject.
     
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  14. NZRob

    NZRob Skiing the Rock Skier

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    I can't really think of any mainstream magazine that I read and think 'nice balanced review'. If you pick up any of those mag's you would think that every ski reviewed is the best ever. It's about as useful as reading manufacturer marketing blurb.

    So +1 to the reviews and assessments we get here on pugski.
     
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  15. Philpug

    Philpug Enjoying being back on two wheels. Admin Pugski Ski Tester

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    Can we quote you on that?
     
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  16. markojp

    markojp mtn rep for the gear on my feet Industry Insider Instructor

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    Maybe not print, but 'Real Skiers' and 'Blistergearreivew' do a pretty nice job as well.
     
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