If the Motive 86 had been available in 188 cm or so (next size up), I suspect I would have liked it even more than the Elan, but I recall it had more rocker. The Elan just doesn't wash out like other semi-rockered skis on Eastern hardpack. I think the minimal rocker in the E88 is why I liked it, but at 180 cm was too soft in that old version. So looking for that perfect blend of minimal rocker, stiffness, and length for my size. I'm trying to get more comfortable in the bumps and at my skill level I think the Elan is limiting my development.