Cage Match Comparison 2019 Cage Match Requests

[Wendy]

Völkl Yumi vs K2 Tough Luv. Both of these are on the rack in my local shop and are generating interest. Yesterday, 2 women were both trying to choose between them.

 

[jmeb]

As much as I've wished I could demo the Deathwish,

If you're ever skiing Loveland and want to demo the 184 I've got a set with demo binders. Only difference between them and current is they have slightly beefed up the flex pattern.

 

[Gorilla Stance]

Nordica Enforcer 93 vs Liberty V-92

 

[Wendy]

DPS Alchemist Wailer 99 (I love this ski, maybe I am in the minority here with that statement) vs the Salomon QST 99.

 

[tch]

Don't know if it's been done before, but CLEAR contrast between the 4 Head Supershape models.

 

[silverback]

Don't know if it's been done before, but CLEAR contrast between the 4 Head Supershape models.

+1

Maybe include some of the non-FIS rebels too. i.speed , i.speed pro evo, i.sl, i.race, i.race pro, i.slr, i.shape pro, i.gsr, etc etc etc

 

[Philpug]

We will be starting to post the Cage Matches in the begining of October. Stay tuned.

 

[Mendieta]

@Philpug and testing team: I know this is a usual comparison in comments but not sure if it was proposed (or done). How about Head Supershape vs Head V-line? They do seem to have striking similarities and differences. On the latter: the supershapes are all for advanced and higher skill levels, and forgiving enough for technically inclined intermediates. The V's seem to go from skiers for beginners (V2) all the way to advanced, up the line, by the time you reach V10. But also, V8 seems to be more frontside oriented (more like the Rally or Magnum I guess?) while the V10 is pitched as having more all mountain chops by head (more comparable to the Titan I guess). Anyways, there maybe room for one or a few interesting cagematches there

 

[Uncle-A]

@Philpug and testing team: I know this is a usual comparison in comments but not sure if it was proposed (or done). How about Head Supershape vs Head V-line? They do seem to have striking similarities and differences. On the latter: the supershapes are all for advanced and higher skill levels, and forgiving enough for technically inclined intermediates. The V's seem to go from skiers for beginners (V2) all the way to advanced, up the line, by the time you reach V10. But also, V8 seems to be more frontside oriented (more like the Rally or Magnum I guess?) while the V10 is pitched as having more all mountain chops by head (more comparable to the Titan I guess). Anyways, there maybe room for one or a few interesting cagematches there

Is the V line going to replace the Super Shape Line?

 

[Andy Mink]

Is the V line going to replace the Super Shape Line?

No, it will complement it. The V line is, in essence, a toned down SS line. Still very capable skis but at a lower price point and more accessible by a wider group of skills. They are more forgiving and perhaps a little more versatile. I've skied both the V8 and the iRally. They are within a mm at the waist. The Rally requests you bring your A-game more often than not to really get the most out of the ski. The V8 is somewhat more relaxed. But don't confuse relaxed with soft or wimpy.

These are the findings of an advancing intermediate skier. YMMV.

 

[Uncle-A]

No, it will complement it. The V line is, in essence, a toned down SS line. Still very capable skis but at a lower price point and more accessible by a wider group of skills. They are more forgiving and perhaps a little more versatile. I've skied both the V8 and the iRally. They are within a mm at the waist. The Rally requests you bring your A-game more often than not to really get the most out of the ski. The V8 is somewhat more relaxed. But don't confuse relaxed with soft or wimpy.

These are the findings of an advancing intermediate skier. YMMV.

Seems like I should give the V8 a try because I really like my Rally skis they are so much fun. Although a friend of mine has the Titans and I really like them too, maybe more in the mornings than the afternoon. As I get older I do not know if I can keep up with them. Thanks @Andy Mink for your insights.

 

[TheArchitect]

Renoun Endurance vs FX95

 

[TimF]

How about Stockli Laser AX vs Kastle MX84. Narrow All Mountain ski vs mid-sized one. I've got the AX and it goes everywhere on any conditions. Skied the former MX 83 and it was also fantastic all over.

 

[Philpug]

How about Stockli Laser AX vs Kastle MX84. Narrow All Mountain ski vs mid-sized one. I've got the AX and it goes everywhere on any conditions. Skied the former MX 83 and it was also fantastic all over.

The AX (77mm) underfoot would more go against the MX74..does that work for you?

 

[Uncle-A]

We will be starting to post the Cage Matches in the begining of October. Stay tuned.

Have you thought of a cage match of one ski but a few seasons apart to see if the changes that the manufacture say they make have any value an have worked.

 

[Philpug]

Have you thought of a cage match of one ski but a few seasons apart to see if the changes that the manufacture say they make have any value an have worked.

That really is another topic...and expect that coming soon. Cage Matches are really more "in the now...", skiers walking into a shop and trying to decide between a couple of skis they are considering buying.

 

[TimF]

The AX (77mm) underfoot would more go against the MX74..does that work for you?

I was thinking more of a "use perspective" vs a same size width. Previous to buying the Laser AX, I was looking for a Western ski for days of old snow/more firm conditions and a a 80's waist was what I wanted. After skiing the AX in these conditions, for me it negates that width as the AX can be that all mountain ski for me--BUT I'm always open to comparisons and future picks. The MX 74 may fit or not. Three way with the odd size added? AX, MX 74 and MX 84

 

[David Chaus]

K2 Supercharger vs Head SuperShape Magnum (or Rally) vs Dynastar Speed Zone 12 vs Atomic Redster X7 vs Fischer RC4 The Curve DTX (or GT) vs Rossi Hero Elite (ST/LT/MT). Maybe that’s not a cage match some much as a War of the 5 Armies.

 

[Uncle-A]

What about a cage match between Z 90 vs Monster 88 or Laser AX vs Z 77?

 

[David Chaus]

How about a cage match between Endurance 98 and Citadel 106?