I had a pair of 2016 LX82s. They were "fine" I just wasn't wowed. They were more than capable on the Vermont hardpack but I just didn't feel that energy I like to feel. They were capable but my socks just weren't knocked off. I know they make a fine ski but I just didn't get that holy sh!t these are awesome vibe i like. Now my Head Rallys va va voom but I digress different strokes.....