2018-19 Demo List: Chill tree skis

Discussion in 'Hardgoods: Skis, Bindings, Poles, and More' started by tromano, Dec 30, 2018.

  1. ted

    ted Putting on skis Skier

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    Volkl 90eight might be worth a demo.
    Totally under the radar, but matches what you are looking for.
     
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    Viking9 Getting on the lift Skier

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    Quick,easy , trees coupled with western conditions, Tromano you are describing the Soul 7.
    Just don’t be the guy who takes them on east coast ice and says they suck!
     
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  3. ScottB

    ScottB Getting off the lift Skier

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    Liberty Origin 96 in 182 cm is my recommendation. I ski the 187 length, my son is on the 182. I love them in the trees, it is my dedicated tree ski and close to my daily driver. I live on the east coast. The ski is best in soft snow, so that says something about it as an East Coast daily ski. I do put a race tune on it (0.5/3.0) and dull the tips and tails back to the contact point. I think Blister is spot on with their review of the ski. If it appeals to you, it is a relatively low cost ski. It is about 4 seasons old and is holding up well.
     
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    tromano Goin' the way they're pointed... Skier

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    Thanks that is exactly what I was suspecting when reading the blister review of the rustlers. :D
     
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    tromano Goin' the way they're pointed... Skier

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    I think that's the second time that Liberty has been mentioned in this thread. I will see if libertys are available to demo locally and take a look. The shape and rocker profile as well as the flex described in the review sound interesting.
     
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    tromano Goin' the way they're pointed... Skier

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    Thanks Ken, I am will drop the 99 and check out the 93 instead.

    I am not going to be skiing deep pow in tight trees with the kids. We rarely get deep pow anyway at snowbasin and if we do its only in a few favored aspects and then you have to ski the other 2000' vertical that had all the pow blown off. Boot top depth and under is more the norm.
     
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  7. Analisa

    Analisa Out on the slopes Skier

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    The blend between a soft tip/tail and supportive underfoot makes me think Black Crows Atris or the Camox
     
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  8. AngryAnalyst

    AngryAnalyst Putting on skis Skier

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    For me personally (2 inches taller, 10ish lbs heavier) the Enforcer 100 would be a good mellow tree ski. I’m assuming you’ve demoed them, why did you count them out for this duty?
     
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    bbinder Out on the slopes Skier

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    A friend of mine demoed them on an icy day and said the were great...
     
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  10. Philpug

    Philpug Enjoying being back on two skis. Admin Pugski Ski Tester

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    I would not dismiss the Ranger 102 either.

    Skis not on your list that I like...

    K2 Pinnacle 105, one of my favorite playful tree skis.
    Blizzard Rustler 10, just works.
     
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  11. GregK

    GregK Getting off the lift Skier

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    Agree with the confusion on the Blister Gear reviews on both the Rustler 10 and the Rustler 9 and wondering if there are some tune issues at play. They loved the Brahma and the Cochise and yet didn’t like the Rustlers which are just more playful, easy going versions of those skis.

    My Rustler 9 had areas that were a touch edge high and others that were base high. Fixed the edge high issues myself before skiing and they did ski okay but did noticed on certain snow types they felt a little shaky. Thought it was just me not used to skiing this year yet or the snow itself but when swapping to other skis I felt more stable over the same terrain. Light stone grind to flatten the base, reset of the edges and the ski was hugely improved especially when not on edge. More than happy to make all turns at all speeds now and very stable at higher speeds.

    So like any new ski, check the tune before writing a bad review. Lol
     
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  12. Ron

    Ron Don't judge a ski by its width underfoot! Pugski Ski Tester

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    OK, 3rd now. Since you get light snow when it does snow, and chalky tracked out snow when its dry, I dont see the need for anything wider than 90+/-. except for foot plus days . If you really want a surfy ride, the Liberty Origin 90 would fit this need to a "T". I would also throw the Liberty V92 into the mix. this ski is so versatile, friendly yet can still stand up when its called for. the flex at the tip absorbs extremely well and the tip/shovel design provides smooth engagement, Underfoot is stiff so you can stand on it and it won't fold and the tail is firm but not punishing, There is very little rocker and virtually no taper in the tails but I dont find the tails to lock when you need them to release. The engineering of this ski is where the magic happens,
     
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    tromano Goin' the way they're pointed... Skier

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    I knew there were some good skis I was forgetting about.

    I will need to post an updated list when I get home.
     
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    tromano Goin' the way they're pointed... Skier

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    They are on the list ;)
     
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    Coolhand Putting on skis Skier

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    Consider a Fischer Ranger 102 FR, might be just what you're looking for.
     
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    tromano Goin' the way they're pointed... Skier

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    Updated Demo list:

    Fischer Ranger 98ti (180): Reading some discussions it sounds like this is very similar to the 86ti with a more tip and tail rise and a more normal shaped tip.

    Fsicher Ranger 102 (184): Recommended by @Philpug

    Blizzard Rustler 10 (180): Reviews make it sound like its what I am after. Recommended by @Philpug

    Blizzard Rustler 9 (180): Recommended by @GregK, @FairToMiddlin

    Nordica Soul Rider 97 (185): Heard really good stuff about these a few years back.

    Nordica Enforcer 100 (185): I like nordicas generally but these maybe too much ski for chill trees.

    Head Kore 93 (180): Like head skis. Rocker profile and shape looks good. Recommended by @Ken_R

    Liberty Origin 96 (182): Recommended by @ScottB

    Liberty Origin 90 (179): Recommended by @Ron

    K2 Pinnacle 105 (184): Recommended by @Philpug

    Salomon QST 99 (181): Liked the feel of the XDR series when demoing last year.

    Black Crows Camox (181): Recommended by @Analisa

    DPS Cassiar 94 (185): Recommended by @Andy Mink

    Volkl 90eight (184): Recommended by @ted

    Rossignol Soul 7 HD (180): Recommended by @Viking9
     
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    Ron Don't judge a ski by its width underfoot! Pugski Ski Tester

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    fwiw- out me down for either the Origin 90 or 96,

    that said, there are several ski's from that list that will serve your needs well, its just a matter of flavor. :thumb:
     
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  18. Kbat117

    Kbat117 Doing snow dances Skier

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    I have probably about 100 days at Snowbasin on the orginial 188cm soul 7. Fantastic ski for what you just described. Super easy going turn ski that navigates those very Aspen's you mentioned beautifully. Fantastic ski for hanging playing at slow speeds. In rough shape at high speed, it kinda sucks, but you are not looking for that anyway.

    For something a little narrower, there is the sin 7, now known at the sky 7.
     
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  19. Josh Matta

    Josh Matta Making fresh tracks Instructor

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    Id take the SOul RIder of you list.... The 185cm E100 is easier in powder going slow than the SR.

    I would say if you get the QST go to 188cm even though you want chill, its pretty soft, its actually a fun ski, and the 188 feel fine in the east.

    I also am still El capos and just making sure they are flat, I actually like mine going slow in powdery woods more than my E100 or E93 because its easier to stay on a flat ski while going slow, not that the E100 is hard though its not.
     
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    tromano Goin' the way they're pointed... Skier

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    Thanks. I will update to remove the soul and try to find a 188 in the QST.
     

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